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October 30th, 2008
To the Editor:
A vote for Gayle Washburn and Jamey Brooks is a vote for strong, sensible leadership. Gayle and Jamey have made a commitment to stop wasteful spending. They will work to form a city government structure that will live within its means.
Join me and vote for Gayle Washburn and Jamey Brooks – Fillmore City Council.
Sarah Hansen,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
ArtHarvest 2008 is over - and along with the inevitable back glancing to scrutinize our successes and failures comes the enjoyable task of doling out thanks to the many whose efforts congealed into a bona fide event! So here we go:
First and foremost thanks must go to Andrew Whaley of Coffeeboy, Wendy Hellstrom of Colors, Roberta Andrino, artist and teacher, Scott Duckett of the Fillmore Gazette, Penny Henschel of Ever After Designs, Kathy Vargas of Fillmore Mail Stop, Alex Mollkoy of AmPet, Bill Bartels of the City of Fillmore and our sponsor, Fillmore Ebell Club. These folks provided the go-juice that jumpstarted the whole event. Special thanks to Andrew for providing us with a meeting space and drinks and snacks to make those long evening meetings easier on our bellies. Blake Allred, Kathleen McCreary, Lynn Edmonds, Brian Hightower, Molly McGuire and Alex Mollkoy also played important roles in facilitating a flow of ideas from which to harvest the shape of the event.
Chalk Art sponsors were: Ludlum Landscaping, KSSP Photoraphic Studios, Edison’s Up in Arms, Curves, The Scented Path Apothecary, Fillmore Tattoo & Piercing, Giessinger Winery, Johanna’s Ice Cream & Candy, The Skateboard Shop, Gloria Cardona, Treasure Station, Tia’s House of Sweets, Lizette’s Jewelry/Telcel, Sandi Ward’s Crafts n Things, Terri’s Salon & Boutique, Central Station Bar & Grill, Central Music, and Aim Glass & Mirror as well as Cofeeboy, AmPet, and Colors. We applaud the imagination it took for you to participate in a vision. And what a beautiful reality occurred as a result.
Next, a hearty handshake to the volunteers who ran the chalk art festival and kids’s art project pavilion. You were great - and what a wonderful event you provided for the artists and children of Fillmore. Also, to Al Huerta, Bill Herrera and their volunteer fireman crew: your support and presence made everything work on Central Avenue. Plus you’re just such nice guys!
To the artists and musicians, more than fifty-seven individuals in all, you provided the sparkle and color to our street and sidewalks that we seldom get to see here. What a pleasure to host you right in downtown Fillmore. We hope you consider playing and displaying for us again
And finally to the merchants and businesses who opened their doors to the Fillmore citizenry and guests in order to provide them with a special occasion - we are most grateful for your hospitality. Just goes to show what we can do when we put our heads together!
Sincerely,
Janine Rees and the ArtHarvest Committee
Fillmore, CA
To the Editor:
I have been a strong supporter of Gayle Washburn and Jamey Brooks for many years. The City of Fillmore needs elected officials that will listen to and represent the community. You will find that Gayle and Jamey will do just that. I know they will remain accountable to you as your representative on the Fillmore City Council.
Please cast your vote on November 4 for Fillmore City Council candidates Gayle Washburn and Jamey Brooks.
Jack Stethem,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
On November 4, the citizens of Fillmore have an opportunity to vote for change - a change for accountability, financial responsibility and integrity. A vote for Gayle Washburn and Jamey Brooks will bring the City of Fillmore back to the citizens of Fillmore.
Maryellen and Charley Alvarez,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
Mark Austin has served the city of Fillmore on the Planning Commission and has proven his ability to serve his community faithfully. In my opinion Mark listens to all sides of an issue, weighs the facts and can reach a decision on the matter. Mark is fair minded and is not afraid to roll up his sleeves to get work done. As past Chair of the Planning Commission he ran very efficient meetings and arrived prepared to conduct business. It’s my belief that he can bring solutions to the table and bridge the roles of policy maker and advocate. Mark is seeking office as a Fillmore School Board Member and for these reason I can recommend Mark Austin for the job.
Steve Conaway,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
M. Cecelia Cuevas has a grass roots campaign going. I think her grass roots are amazing. I assume she is talking about her hair. It can't be grass roots of voters. She has a whopping 2 voters who have contributed $25.00 or more. Now, if the population of Fillmore was 3 she would have a grass roots campaign. I'm gonna have to get up close and personal with her and see if I can find some green hair.
The Harrison garbage company had 4 people (Harrison family) donate $1,000 to Cecelia's campaign. Apparently, they think she's interested in their company because of all the garbage she puts out at City Council meetings and with her campaign.
Two builders who want to build in North Fillmore gave her the maximum law allows, $250. In return, Cecelia wants to give them the maximum number of homes to build. Cecelia is really fair like that. She gives back!
American Water has given Cecelia the maximum twice. I suppose it's because they know how to handle all of the sewerage at City Hall. Since American Water's bid was twice as high as PERC's, twice the maximum. Perc, obviously underestimated how much sewerage comes out of City Hall.
Some out of town lawyer gave her money. I thought it worked the other way around, you pay them a retainer.
California Rock gave her the maximum as well. We all can see why that happened, you know, the thing on her shoulders. I'm not saying she's stubborn, but have you heard her rants at council meetings?
So, we can see Cecelia's interests by looking at who gave her money. She likes 2 citizens, garbage, home builders, sewerage, rocks and a lawyer. Oh, Dr. Phil, I think we need your help.
Also, the debate that I attended had only 3 either against or withholding judgment about revisiting rent control.
Raul, you've heard us say many times that rent control is not mandatory if a law comes into place. You may choose a long term lease that is not bound by rent control. So why do you want to tell the rest of us what to do? We want lower rents and it will not come close to bankrupting the owner or management if we get it. It would be nothing like the hurt they put on many of us. There are ways to avoid becoming a family park and condoizing, so that is not in the picture. You have no legitimate argument to be against rent control. You just like being bossy. Did your HOA have an emergency disaster plan (other than running like heck)? This HOA has many C.E.R.T. (Community Emergency Response Team) graduates, taught by the Fire Department, in a block captain program to assist even you if disaster strikes El Dorado again. We have emergency equipment and are seeking to buy all the supplies the Fire Dept. has recommended we should have on hand. What better use could a HOA have than possibly saving the lives of our neighbors? Yes, this is being done by rent control people. I think this plainly shows the difference between you and me. 'Nuff said!
Dave Roegner,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
November 4th, 2008 election is fast approaching and we as voters must decide who shall fill the city council seats. The candidate shall have these following qualities.
Have served on one or more elected or appointed positions. Have served on one or more committees within the City. Have been active in various activities within the City. Have demonstrated their leadership in various positions, and have demonstrated their ability in resolving issues and concerns for the city and the public.
Steve Conaway has exhibited all of these qualities with integrity and honesty. These are the reasons we support Steve for City Council.
Ray and Judy Dressler,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
So now we are about to get into the voting booth to pick a leader. We have listened to all of the Song and Dance tunes and now we must decide which one's we liked the best. We have four great musicians.
Sen. Obama is a well educated and articulate man that has a team of fine advisors and money raisers. He chose Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate, who has years of political experience.
Sen. Obama has also some friends that don't really like the American way of life--but that's his privilege. He would like all of us to share our income, pay more tax and live happily ever after.
Then we have Sen. John McCain, well educated with experience and served in the United States Navy. He chose Sarah Palin as his running mate who is the Governor (direction and control) of the State of Alaska. She was also a mayor or chief magistrate of a city.
Sen. McCain also had some friends that did not really like the American way of life--he fought them with us in mind, and how he paid for it!
He would like all of us to be secure, have health insurance and pay less tax. We could live happily ever after.
I know what it cost John McCain to be a fighter. I cannot charge him more by not voting for him.
Robert Hansen
WWII Veteran
Fillmore
To the Editor:
At the October 21st City Council candidate forum, Gayle Washburn indicated that she would have increased City staff rather than hire consultants to design and build the water recycling project. Since Washburn is the only Council candidate advocating this method of doing business, let's consider the wisdom of this idea.
to staff this 6 year project the city would need to hire, provide office space, computers, printers and other office equipment, phone system etc for at least 35 specialists such as Environmental Planner, Waste Water Treatment process Engineer, Pipeline Engineer, Design Engineers, Project Engineers, Architect, Surveyors, Hydrogeolic Engineer and others.
Each of the professions would be utilized for from a few months to about four man years on this six year project. Their work load often starts and stops with many months of inactivity in between.
The city would have to offer very high rates of pay to attract quality personnel away from their employers to take a temporary job with Fillmore.
Not to mention the paid benefits and retirement.
Public agencies do not staff up to do short duration projects such as Fillmore's water recycling program but instead select qualified professional consultants to do the work with City staff and the City Council providing Policy and general oversight of the project.
We don't need to set up a constant Professional Staff vs Washburn on any future Projects by electing Her to the Council.
Ray Johnson
To The Editor:
As we approach the upcoming election, I would like to address one of the critical issues facing us here in Fillmore, which I have lived in for twenty years. I moved to the beauty and serenity of Fillmore to escape the oppressive congestion and pollution of the San Fernando and San Gabriel Valleys. To my great dismay, however, there has been a concerted effort for several years now to jeopardize the small-town character of Fillmore by excessive development, lately by planning to build 700 units in North Fillmore. Among other things, this would force the construction of a new street from North Fillmore to the north end of Central Avenue. As a result of this overcrowded development, there would be adverse impacts on air quality, infrastructure costs, and traffic (with significantly more congestion on Central Ave., A, B, C and D Streets down to Hwy 126).
Two candidates for city council, Gayle Washburn and Jamey Brooks, with whom I have spoken at length, are committed to mitigating this destructive plan. They are also determined to foster a more responsive, accountable and transparent city government to ensure the best interests of the people of Fillmore. Joining them in these goals are Clay Westling (for City Clerk) and Grace Donahue (for City Treasurer). Please vote YES for them and YES on Measures H and I. Our vote will have enormous consequences with respect to the character of our town for generations to come.
George Krestyn,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
Concerning Measures H & I:
Some reasons why the Citizens for Responsible Growth have put Measures H & I on next Tuesday’s ballot:
First, in order to help fulfill some of the goals set-forth in our Vision 2020 plan which states the North Fillmore area will be patterned after the traditional East part of town which has a density of 5-6 houses per acre. There are approximately 65 buildable acres in the 101 total acreage. If you multiply those 65 acres by 5 houses per acre you get 325 houses. Out of the goodness of our hearts we gave them 25 extra houses and that’s how we arrived at the 350 houses in North Fillmore.
Second, the Vision 2020 plan also states in the Vision Statement: “Preserve our small-town atmosphere and quality of life through slow, well planned growth in order to protect open space, allow agriculture to thrive and strengthen our local economy”. That’s where we differ with city staff on “small town atmosphere and quality of life”. We don’t believe our present quality of life will be enhanced by building 700 homes on those 65 buildable acres. At two cars per house minimum the 700 homes will generate nearly 2800 trips to and from work daily plus extra trips taking kids to and from school, for shopping, Little League and all the other miscellaneous trips we all must make daily. This all adds up to horrendous traffic, congestion, noise and air pollution on just A, B & C Streets through West Fillmore and all the added traffic on our freeways.
Third, looking at the Hillside Drive project it works like this: Assume the city is allowed to build the 700 houses. Once 480 houses are built no more can be built until after Hillside Drive is constructed. The owner of the orange orchard at the north end of Central Avenue where Hillside Drive must pass through to connect Goodenough and Central Avenues has no desire to sell his orchard. The city would have to take the land by Eminent Domain. If the 350 houses Measure I allows - there will be no need for a Hillside Drive project.
Finally, concerning Mr. Rieder’s proposed project just east of the Ameron plant, the city is going to allow him to build 51 dwellings on three acres; that’s a density of 17 houses per acre. Some of those lots will be just 37 feet wide and over half of the dwellings will be three stories high. If that isn’t the making of a drug saturated ghetto in a few years I’ll be greatly surprised.
The main thing most developers are interested in is making as much money as possible by building as many houses as possible as close together as possible and as high as possible. They leave town with the homeowners’ millions of dollars and the town gets all the resulting traffic and impacts on roads, schools, police, fire and city services.
One parting thought to chew on: If bigger were better – Los Angeles would be heaven!
Ralph Rees,
55 Year Resident of Fillmore
To the Editor:
I have a real problem understanding this party of four running for office especially Clay Westling who is saying he can do a better job than I have done. I always thought 2 + 2 was 4 but his figures come out different 2 + 2 is 3. Here is how I came to this conclusion. I worked for the City of Fillmore for over 8 years as Economic Development and retired. I was elected 2 times to be City Clerk and won, making me 8 years as City Clerk. Now Mr. Westling has never worked for the government, never been City Clerk and yet he can do a better job. He has these big ideas that he has thrown at you that make absolutely no sense if he actually knew anything about government and especially City Clerk. So if you add the same way I do you will vote for me, Shirley Spitler for City Clerk for the third time. And I might add I have lived here 48 years and he has lived here 7 and proclaims to know Fillmore better than I. Of those 48 years all but 3 of them I have been working, owned a business, volunteering for many organizations and all of this was done in Fillmore. What has Clay Westling done for this community? Let me see! He gets up at every council meeting and complains about something. Oh I forgot he is going to work at city hall 5 days a week from 8 - 5 and will be paid the same salary I am now getting, which is $25.00 per MONTH. Again I have a problem with his 2 + 2 = 3. I hope all of the citizens of Fillmore read this before you vote so you will know the real truth.
Thank you and please vote.
Shirley Spitler,
City Clerk
To the Editor:
Cecilia Cuevas and Steve Conaway think that in the last two years the one negative occurring on the council was the elimination of the Code of Ethics. Not our huge monthly sewer bills?
Cuevas and Conaway approved the expenditure of $80 million to fund the new plant. The primary contactor, American Water, paid Conaway’s way to Washington D.C. to sell their company to other mayors around the country. The New York law firm doing the project legal work said they could do it for $175 thousand. After Cuevas voted to approve their final add-on request for $60,000, bringing the total up to $475,000, she said they were doing a good job for us. Us? Hundreds of us asked council to put the project back out to bid, Gayle Washburn, in an effort to ease the burden on the rate-payers, had found at least three other companies that were interested and estimated they could do it for much less. Cuevas and Conaway said no.
By contrast, Santa Paula’s bids were too high; they started over. Their plant handles twice the sewage ours will and cost only $56 million; the builder is a company that said they could help Fillmore.
I trust Gayle Washburn and Jamey Brooks to look deep before rendering decisions that impact the community. They haven’t been funded by outside interests or developers and are not supported by ex-mayor-turned lobbyist, Roger Campbell. They are supported by Fillmore folks who just want our elected officials to look out for our best interests.
Bob Stroh,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
Response to letter of 10-16-08 from David Roegner
David gets everything mixed up when he writes a letter to the editor. He said “everyone said yes” about revisiting rent control. In fact the only ones that said yes were Washburn and Brooks. Pennington “Maybe”-- Martinez“ Not Sure”, Conaway and Cuevas both “No” That means only “TWO” said yes. David said “Cecilia’s excuse was that it created divisiveness in El Dorado” David, it did more than that in El Dorado. It was the most disruptive mess to ever hit our park, thanks old buddy. It turned neighbor against neighbor. With phony accusations, outright lies and name calling. Why David? Mr. Roegner states “We wanted a Real HOA”. Typically, HOA is formed to oversee the maintenance of common areas (Common Ground), such as roads, parks, recreation facilities, landscaping, Painting, insurance, regular maintenance etc, are Included in the HOA dues. HOA dues are calculated by dividing the cost of improvement by the number of years until the improvements are made. (David, Ask Paul or Joyce Schifanelli, where are our common areas. I wonder how much their DUES were at their last HOA residence), Bet, not a DOLLAR a month) One of the hidden responsibilities of a Real True HOA is to negotiate a lease with park Management and Ownership. (Kenneth Creason’s March 31-2004)Since there are no COMMON AREAS in our case, and at best this is a TENANT Association.--WE ALL PAY RENT (To a Landlord).
Raul Torres of El Dorado
To the Editor:
MARK AUSTIN FOR FILLMORE SCHOOL BOARD
I have known Mark Austin for over 10 years and had the opportunity to work with him while on the Planning Commission.
I find Mark to be a problem solver with a strong capability to work to unite both sides. Mark believes in local control at the school district level and will stand strong to fight for our children.
I know Mark will be an effective advocate to assure our children get the type of public schools we can be proud of. Mark is committed to raising standards and expectations so our children get the quality education we strive for.
Mark Austin is a well respected member and supporter of our community. I hope you will join me and vote for Mark Austin, Fillmore School Board on November 4.
Patti Walker,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
I have been a resident of Fillmore for over 2 years know and have enjoyed living in this community. My daughter is 5 years old and is in her 2nd year of AYSO. We usually have practices at Shields park and when I got there last week the whole Raiders Football Team(s) were taking up the whole park! I was told that they are taking over Shields Park starting today. My daughter will no longer have her usually ( 1 ) practice a week. They only have 2 weeks left and they allow the Football team to take over the field. Not only that they had the lights on for them. My daughters team has been practicing in the dark for the last couple of weeks. It seems the City rather have the football team take over the field then have the AYSO finish off there last 2 weeks of the season. I payed money to have my daughter play AYSO and know all she has to look forward to is 2 last games! I pay property taxes. It is just simply not fair. I am not even sure if I will sign my daughter up again for next year. I am really disappointed with the City for allowing this. This whole soccer season I have not seen 1 picture of a child playing soccer in the newspaper. Oh but you always see Football pictures! I am considering signing up my daughter in the Ventura league. They seem to be fair to all kids in sports!
Yolanda Santa Rosa,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
Re: Fillmore Senior Center
Years ago we had an active and interesting senior center, which unfortunately due to lack of tender loving care faded almost into nonexistence.
Good news! Like the legendary Phoenix rising from the ashes I see new life burgeoning. We have a new Board of Directors with new ideas, we have volunteers conducting great programs, and I sense new enthusiasm by the community at large.
There is a lot of activity going on now and I am sampling some of the activities offered just to see what “fits” with me. I live in the rural area of Fillmore, but have been made more than welcome on the Monday “Nature” walks conducted by Sarah Hansen. (These are not really just nature walks, but local history, landmarks, etc. and very enjoyable). I was then convinced to try out the Yoga Stretch class on Tuesdays at 9:00…Janine from The Scented Path conducts the class; I couldn’t believe you could do Yoga in a chair. This class is wonderful if you need to get the “kinks” out. Wednesday and Friday you can participate in Yvette Chavez’ Stretch Band and Cardio sessions…a good “low impact” tailor made class. I have joined in a couple of craft classes on Friday, and now the center offers Wana Klassen’s watercolor classes that has sparked a lot of interest. The Book Club, under the direction of Sarah Hansen, meets on the third Wednesday of the month with a lively discussion, as well as great camaraderie. Computer Classes are going great guns, they are so popular there is even a waiting list and they are hoping to expand the computer lab.
There are a lot of changes going on in the senior center itself, Lori Nunez greets everyone with a smile and explains the activities that are available, she has made the various areas attractive and welcoming. Some of the improvements are new furniture in the TV area, the thrift store area is undergoing renovation as a reading/game room, a salad bar to supplement the standard lunch once a week is in progress, and many other activities.
I am impressed and applaud all who are giving of their time and talents to restore our Senior Center. You have got to drop by and see it for yourself.
Donna Voelker,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
Concerning Prop. 8
There have been many arguments stating various reasons for voting yes or no on the Protect Marriage Amendment to the State Constitution, also known as Proposition 8. All arguments and opinions offered so far have stated human views on whether marriage should only be legal between a man and a woman, or between any combination of persons. No on, I have observed, has stated what God has said about marriage.
I'm not a prophet, priest, pastor or phony, just an average guy who believes what God said in his love letter to mankind, the Bible, concerning marriage. In Matthew, Chapter 19 verses 4 & 5 the Bible states "it is written that at the beginning God created man and woman and that a man should leave his father & mother and be forever united to his wife." And in Luke 10:6 Jesus again says "For from the very first He made man and woman to be joined together permanently in marriage." In Romans 7:2 it states "when a woman marries, the law binds her to her husband as long as he is alive." Lastly Hebrews 13:4 God says "Honor your marriage and its vows, and be pure, for I will surely punish all those who are immoral or commit adultery."
This whole controversy centers on who should marry whom and on nothing else. Romans 1:26 puts it very plainly when it says "That is why God let them go and let them do all these evil things, so that even their women turned against God's natural plan for them and indulged in sex with each other. And the man, instead of having normal sex relationship with women, burned with lust for each other, men doing shameful things with other men and as a result, getting paid within their own souls with the penalty they so richly deserve. Finally in 1 Timothy 1:10 it says "Those who live immoral lives, who are idol worshipers, adulterers or homosexuals will have no share in his Kingdom."
Consider this musing. Haven’t you heard it said that all sorts of natural disasters are termed "Acts of God"? Isn't it coincidental that 800 + bolts of lightning came showering down over central California starting hundreds of fires, exactly two days after four Supreme Court justices declared a new "right" to same-sex marriage this past June. In my opinion I hate to contemplate what kind of "Acts of God" will happen if millions of voters turn down Prop. 8 this November 4.
It seems abundantly clear from what the Bible says that God intends for marriage to be for one man and one woman. If we mess with that, eventually we will pay a high price one way or another.
Ralph Page,
Fillmore
To the Editor:
The hallmark of the Brooks/Washburn City Council Campaign is City Mismanagement.
Is it mismanagement for Mayor Conaway and Mayor Pro tem Cuevas to go to Washington and convince FEMA that their model of the railroad penetration of the Sespe Levy Was wrong? Is it mismanagement For City staff to work With FEMA to challenge the Models being used for the 126 Sespe bridge Flow? It is Financially imperative for the west Fillmore residents to continue The momentum on this challenge of FEMA flood zone maps.
Is it mismanagement to build an Industry standard MBR Waste Water Treatment Plant with an expected 50 year life expectation And probably of membrane development to meet future regulations and extend lifetime?
Is it mismanagement to include recyled water usage in the project? State water management has already announced a not too far away "Requirement" to use treated water for irrigation. We are already there due to the Staff and Council foresight to Conserve the water rather than discharge water to the river.Is that mismanagement?
Is having a swim and tennis facility under construction mismanagement?
Is having a new 22 acre park with play fields and a skateboard park
under construction mismagement?
Is it mismanagement to work with property owners and developers to develop the southwest business park, bringing jobs and income to Fillmore.
Ray Johnson
Fillmore
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Bob Stroh shame on you. You
Bob Stroh shame on you. You know the truth and you purposely submitted your letter in which you state "The primary contactor, American Water, paid Conaway’s way to Washington D.C. to sell their company to other mayors around the country." which is a flat out lie. You, my Sir, are lieing to the public. You know it, I know it and the City Council who reviewed the trip knows it. You can't even tell the truth about the purpose of the trip. I spoke about benefits of Design Build Operate contracts, not "selling their company". While we don't agree on much I have always thought you to be honest, until now. Appearently your integrity has little value. No wonder you lobbied to remove the Code of Ethics.
"Gayle Washburn, in an effort to ease the burden on the rate-payers, had found at least three other companies that were interested and estimated they could do it for much less." Really Bob? Seems to me you've drank the Kool-aide and went back for seconds. While you may believe that an "estimate" is good enough, most people know that unless a contract is signed it doesn't mean anything. The three companies NEVER submitted a bid. You give me to much credit Bob, I'm only 1/5 of the final vote. Seems to me that the decisions you're upset about were supported by a majority of the council. Look, I get it. It's an election year and you want your folks in office so you can pull the strings and impart your brand of change. Everyone understands that. Rational people would hope that you wouldn't stoop to lies.
"By contrast, Santa Paula’s bids were too high; they started over. Their plant handles twice the sewage ours will and cost only $56 million; the builder is a company that said they could help Fillmore." Let's look at the facts. There is No levee required for Santa Paula, no recycling of water required for Santa Paula, and your "three companies" never submitted a bid, among many many other things. Oh ya, your Candidate lambasted Fillmore for going with a DBO Contract. In Santa Paula your Candidate couldn't have been more supportive that they choose to go with a DBOF Contract. I don't think a fish out of water flops that fast.
"I trust Gayle Washburn and Jamey Brooks to look deep before rendering decisions that impact the community. They haven’t been funded by outside interests or developers..." Really Bob? Two years ago Gayle was funded to the maximum by a North Fillmore Developer (and I approve of his project). You might want to get your facts straight. Then again, why would you?
Steve Conaway
Why does is not surprise me
Why does is not surprise me that Bob Stroh would twist the facts? Why does it not surprise me that Jamey Brooks and Gayle Washburn would pick out little factoids and plug them into their propoganda machine while ignoring the big picture?
I hope my fellow Fillmorons see thru this silliness and cast their vote not for Brooks and Washburn, and not for these two stupid propositions... and vote for common sense.
Don't worry, guys..."silly
Don't worry, guys..."silly season" is almost over with in a few days, then the nutcrackers will return to their padded cells to await their turns once again four years from now. Sleep well, please.
The Bob Stroh, Jamey Brooks,
The Bob Stroh, Jamey Brooks, Gayle Washburn, Clay Westling, and Brian Sipes group have used lies and fear in their campaigns for years. Too bad too, because it's this crap that turns people against each other and ruins our small town. I join you Steve Conaway in saying shame on Bob Stroh and will add shame on you Jamey Brooks, Gayle Washburn, Clay Westling, and Brian Sipes for your lies. Please stop it.
re: Shame on you? by Steve
re: Shame on you? by Steve Conaway
First of all let me begin by commending you Steve, because up until now I do not believe you have personally used negative campaigning against your opponents. I may be wrong, but I believe that was the case - til now.
You have just stated that Gayle received maximum allowable donations from a North Fillmore Developer during last election.
I'm sure you are absolutely correct; but what you left out was the facts of who, what and why.
Who; Bill Steiger
What; At the time Bill was not a developer, but a resident wanting to develop.
Why; Bill wanted to develop his parcel at ONLY 5 units per acre, and was against the Hillside Drive extension.
Bill was a very active member of "Citizens For Responsible Growth"
Who to vote for?
Any candidate who would stoop to this negative campaigning, using the "hate the other guy" technique to gain votes is not only ugly and malicious; it loudly declares the moral and ethical character of the one spouting off. Definitely NOT someone to vote for.
Gayle and Jaime ARE the two best choices.
Roberto and all you other yahoo's; if you try hard enough, you should be able to find convincing arguments on why your choices should be voted for, instead of attacking others on why they should not.
Vote for Honesty, Integrity, and Responsibility:
Vote for Gayle Washburn, Jaime Brooks, and Grace Donahew.
The only reason I left out Wes is simply because I do not know him, except by sight.
Gayle, Jaime, and Grace are not only well known to me-I know each one well enough to entrust them with ANYTHING.
Though I cannot in all honesty endorse Wes - I personally would still vote for him; he does keep great company.
ARGUS, did you see the FULL
ARGUS, did you see the FULL PAGE AD in this week's newspaper by Gayle Washburn and Jamey brooks? Take a look for yourself and you will see just how low these two candidates have stooped. EVERYTHING IS AN ATTACK! Please retract your statement about Brooks and Washburn's "Honesty, Integrity, and Responsibility" because this ad proves just how dishonest and irresponsible they really are.
I'll quote you again: "Any candidate who would stoop to this negative campaigning, using the "hate the other guy" technique to gain votes is not only ugly and malicious; it loudly declares the moral and ethical character of the one spouting off. Definitely NOT someone to vote for."
Based on your own statements, can you or any anyone vote for Washburn or Brooks? The clear answer is NO. Citizens of Fillmore, please don't put these two dishonest and malicious people in office.
Roberto, I just looked at
Roberto, I just looked at the Ad and WOW! You're right. Nothing but "hate the other guy." I guess if you can't win on the truth and your own merits, you have to resort to full page attack ads.
I'm voting for Conway and Cuevas.
I just read the letter (paid
I just read the letter (paid ad) from The Five "Retired" Mayors with utter disbelief.I always thought Mayor Gunderson and Mayor Lee were more dignified than Roger,Mike and Everisto...Sadly I was wrong.This letter only proves you can't buy class.
Thanks again Joe Friday for
Thanks again Joe Friday for adding nothing but slander to the dialog. Regardless of what you consider someone’s class to be, the fact is that these 5 experienced city officials see the danger of having both Jamey Brooks and Gayle Washburn in office. Instead of ideas and experience, all Washburn and Brooks provide is political attack ads and scare tactics. My fellow Fillmorenions, Please vote for positive leadership. Please vote for Cuevas and Conaway.
Oceans 11, What do you think
Oceans 11, What do you think ? Fillmore Councilwoman cited for domestic violence, athorities say
Fillmore City Councilwoman Laurie Hernandez was cited on suspicion of misdemeanor domestic violence last week in connection with an incident involving her ex-husband, authorities said Wednesday.
The citation was issued to Hernandez, 39, on Thursday evening at a residence in the 300 block of Blaine Avenue in Fillmore after her ex-husband called police to report that she slapped him, Sheriff's spokesman Capt. Ross Bonfiglio said. Neither Hernandez nor her ex-husband had any visible injuries, Bonfiglio said.
Hernandez declined to comment to a reporter, calling it a personal matter.
Shame On You Conaway. You
Shame On You Conaway.
You sold out our town.
Bob Stroh is on the mark and for those disbelievers, here is the link to the Article about American Waters and Steve Conaway representing American Waters. Shame on you Conaway you do not deserve to be re elected
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/blog/archive/2007/02/06/don-correll-a-w...
For the general information
For the general information of this blog:
My campaign did not design or pay for any ads in this week's Fillmore Gazette. Looking at the bottom of the full page ad referred to by the bloggers you can see that a political "pac" paid for the ad. It was a zealous piece. It was not done by my campaign or Gayle Washburn's campaign.
Jamey Brooks
Shame on you LOL, you can't
Shame on you LOL, you can't stop lying.
There is nothing in this "article" about Mayor Conaway representing American Waters as you suggest. He attended the US conference of Mayors. Why? Because he is a Mayor.
By the way, this is no "article", just another confused blogger.
My comments were addressing
My comments were addressing Stroh's Letter to the Editor and were not directed at a candidate. I questioned and brought attention to Bob Stroh's hypocracy in his Letter. The example of the North Fillmore Developer is accurate. He has been working on the plan for several years. I've met with him concerning his project. I approve of his project based upon it's merit and adherence to the North Fillmore Specific Plan which is being contested this election. Might want to ponder that one.
Regarding the hatchet attach ad over the trip to Washington D.C. all I have to say is the truth is available. It was reviewed by the City Council (Cuevas, Lee, Walker and Hernandez) and the City Attorney. I was invited by the US Conference of Mayors to speak about Fillmore's DBO contract. I supplied reciepts for the trip showing reimbursement from the US Conference of Mayors. Food and Water Watch is a Ralph Nader inspired group which has it's own agenda for it's own purpose. Readers beware.
If anyone would like a copy of the US Conference of Mayors article of the speaking engagement please let me know and I'll copy one off for you. I have other pictures available rather than the one cropped and cut for effect which was placed in this weeks paper by way of advertising. Nothing to hide and nothing to hide from.
Steve Conaway
Your words are tricky
Your words are tricky Conaway. Council reviewed your trip or information of your trip, more than 6 months after the fact. The Trip was never approved for you to go as Mayor of Fillmore. You never got Councils approval! Then you continued to vote in behalf of American waters when ethically you should have recused yourself. NO morals at all.
At this point, can we
At this point, can we believe anything you say LOL?
You are a proven liar.
Truth certainly hurts. That
Truth certainly hurts. That is why Conaway & Cuevas have lost the Election.
Washburn, Brooks & Hernandez WON!!!!!!
"H" & "I" WON!!
Yes, the truth must hurt,
Yes, the truth must hurt, because it's so hard for you to tell it.
I'll join you in fantasy land and say congratulations to Steve and Cecilia. And while I'm at it, I'm so glad the flawed measures "H" and "I" did not pass!
LOL makes false and
LOL makes false and misleading statements indeed.
Also lives in more of a fantasy land than you realized Pete. Hernandez is NOT even running for office. My prediction is Puff the Magic Dragon will win, along with Elvis and Ken’s girlfriend Barbie.
Seriously, my vote is for positive leadership. My vote is for Steve Conaway, Cecilia Cuevas, and Norris Pennington.
Talking about being out of
Talking about being out of touch and in La La Land.
Here I will gladly reveal the Candidates running.
So what Koolaid are you drinking Roberto?
# Mayor Steve Conaway
# Mayor Pro-tem Cecilia Cuevas
# Gayle Washburn
# Norris Pennington
# Marcoz Hernandez Sr.
# Royce Davis Jr.
# Omero Martinez
I just proved you as a liar not me.
May God bless the sick
LOL, you are correct Marcoz
LOL, you are correct Marcoz Hernandez is running. He is such a non-candidate that I forgot all about him and thought you were talking about Laurie Hernandez. Sorry.
This is the difference between you and me. I admit and apologize when I've made an error. You, after being proven wrong about your attacks on Steve Conaway, will not apologize or even admit your error. Sad.
I do not apologize when I am
I do not apologize when I am "Correct".
I didn't attack Conaway, I told the truth.
You attacked Marcoz who isn't even in this discussion.
He is a candidate and will replace Conaway with Washburn and Brooks.
What Koolaid are you drinking?
LOL, you are not correct.
LOL, you are not correct. You owe many an apology for attempting to smear people. You must be associated with the pac who published all the lies about Conaway and Cuevas in this week's Gazette. Please stop smearing people. Please stop it.
Truth : honest
Truth : honest information
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/blog/archive/2007/02/06/don-correll-a-w...
This speaks volume
LOL, you've tried this smear
LOL, you've tried this smear already and it won't work.
Please see Steve Conaway's response below. Rational people will not vote for slander. Please do not vote for Brooks or Washburn. See below:
Regarding the hatchet attach ad over the trip to Washington D.C. all I have to say is the truth is available. It was reviewed by the City Council (Cuevas, Lee, Walker and Hernandez) and the City Attorney. I was invited by the US Conference of Mayors to speak about Fillmore's DBO contract. I supplied reciepts for the trip showing reimbursement from the US Conference of Mayors. Food and Water Watch is a Ralph Nader inspired group which has it's own agenda for it's own purpose. Readers beware.
If anyone would like a copy of the US Conference of Mayors article of the speaking engagement please let me know and I'll copy one off for you. I have other pictures available rather than the one cropped and cut for effect which was placed in this weeks paper by way of advertising. Nothing to hide and nothing to hide from.
Steve Conaway
Misspellchkr...I was
Misspellchkr...I was wondering where you were all these days? I missed seeing your posts! Sorry for not responding earlier, as I had an emergency in Manila. My wife decided to buy a new condo and while I was in the Province, 12-hours away, I had to take a plane from a nearby airport to get to review this situation. She bought the condo, by the way. Women always get their way...don't they?
Reference to your post asking me if I had any opinion on the Laurie Hernandez incident. No, I really do not, to answer your question. Other than I figure that was her business. I guess everyone (at least the people I'am thinking of right now) married or divorced, sometimes have arguments...and when divorced individuals get into a cat-and-dog fight, something emotions can fly out of control. Makes no difference as to who has what "station" in life, either. I often read about Laurie, but that is not my business to immerse myself into the business of Fillmore. However, arguments do happen. We have to be considerate and "human"; to be understanding that others, too, feel we want to throw something at someone. By the way...I did not have a fight with my wife, either, in Manila over the condo. When we go there, we usually stay with relatives or in hotels, and I guess she was just expressing her independence by wanting to have more privacy. I did scream at her, however! But it was over in 10 seconds. She screamed back at me, and that ended the dispute!
By the way, Misspellchkr, who is this LOL, anyway? Is he or she one of those Mexican Jumping Beans that jumped out of the can and got lost from the rest of the bunch? No pun, irreverence or disrespect to the Mexican community, either.
So sad how Oceans11 is the
So sad how Oceans11 is the King of this blog, he or she is correct and no one can say other wise. Since I do not agree or do not in any way side on this persons decision of the up coming Election. I am sick, Mentally ill and the Hispanic community has been insulted.
This is America, I have a right to comment like you do. Also everyone should agree to disagree.
I purposely re posted the Water Wathch link because you where accusing me of lies as well as others. I didn't lie, that was an article posted over 18 months ago. Get real. I have a right to vote for Washburn, Brooks & Hernandez and not for Conaway and Cuevas. Accept that.
What...Misspellchkr? I
What...Misspellchkr? I don't understand about your posting. You make no sense to me today. First, thanks for seeing that I'm correct. I usually are correct 99% of the time, you know. It's about time someone recognized that. By the way..."King" is my actual last name, but I did not know that I happen to be "King of the Blog"; I have heard that I was "King of the Hill", or "King of the Mountain", or "King of the Road", or even "The King of King's". Whatever, Misspellchkr. While I travel through your sentences, I see that you disagree with my choice of Presidential candidates; but I presume you are voting for "Obama-Lama-Ding-Dong!" However, I'am very sorry that you are, "sick, Mentally ill." Please see a shrink, dear. If the "Hispanic community has been insulted", I made a disclaimer in my posts. They may agree that "LOL" is a beanhead, anyway. You also said, "This is America". Gee...thanks for reminding me! But this is the part I'm totally confused about...you ranted on and on and said something that you re-posted the "Water Wathch" link, and I was accusing you of lies or something or rather! Are you okay? I never did make posts concerning the "Water Wathch", because I never knew about it in the first place, nor could make any comments on it anyway! I'am "real", so I don't need to "get real", as you wanted me to do. Misspellchkr...vote for whomever you want to. I don't really care. Let's just say that we both hope the best-man or woman wins. What is best for Fillmore, let the people decide. Talk to you again, later this week, and I hope the doctor gives you something to ease your pains.
Oceans 11 you have confused
Oceans 11 you have confused and attributed the previous post by LOL, as being from me.
Well, I was enjoying my
Well, I was enjoying my media/blog fast this week but I guess I’m going to have to respond to some of the comments on the http://www.fillmoregazette.com/ . I have to say that a rational person looking at this City from an objective point of view would have to be shaking their head in disbelief. (and Oceans 11 would not be in that classification – I’m suspecting a local operative)
What is going on here? Some history… Interested citizens read that a huge development is going to be approved for the North Fillmore area. The EIR discloses significant environmental impacts that will affect the community forever and that cannot realistically be mitigated. It also discloses that the General Plan is not consistent with Vision 2020. Many citizens follow the governmental process and write letters and speak at public hearings. While some on the Council articulate their very sound reasons for supporting the project, the citizens also articulate very sound reasons but are ignored and disregarded by some Council members. They are told that Vision 2020 doesn’t matter – it’s not a legal document. (It’s just distributed to everyone’s front doorstep while the legal document -General Plan- costs $100’s of dollars to obtain) Citizens who have never participated in public hearings (me) are surprised to see so many people in the community ignored. There is some shock at some of the behaviors and tactics used at the hearings against the citizens.
I believe that I have made efforts to remain professional and polite in all dealings with staff and Council members. While I know many people who are angered at some of our leader’s actions, I have still tried to maintain an objective point of view. I understand the difficulty that these Council members go through with their decisions. I understand what a thankless and low paying job this is and I applaud anyone who gives their time and energy to serve their community. But, I also understand the anger that many in the community are expressing and I sympathize with those who feel they are being disenfranchised by their local government.
So, how is it possible that such division exists? I think those in power have to assume the bigger part of the responsibility. The citizens in this community have little power and no voice (that is heard). Some of those in power now or in the past have engaged in a negative and divisive warfare and now try to blame it on the victims of their abuse!
On my blog (http://www.fillmoreblog.com/) I have bent over backwards to try to engage in a productive and thoughtful conversation and then been blasted repeatedly by “all caps” and others trying to keep the status quo with innuendo and abuse directed at Patti Walker, myself and others. Then when supporters rise up in outrage to defend us, the offenders have to make up lies and spread rumors to try to discredit citizens with no power. What are they so afraid of?
So, with that said, I want to go on the record and respond to a few remarks.
To Mr. Ray Johnson (or is this...?????) This can’t be the same Ray Johnson who was in my computer class. I don’t think so, since my Mr. Johnson was a delightful and adorable student who didn’t express an interest or technical expertise in these issues. I hope someone is not using Mr. Johnson’s name for political purposes. As far as mismanagement, please get your candidates straight. My issues are capital costs and development that doesn't fit Fillmore in size or density.
As far as the FEMA issue, after attending the two most recent (7/17 & 10/14) FEMA/Watershed Protection meetings I am not convinced that all of the effort and money that we are expending on consultants and trips to DC will change the outcome of this study. When the challenge was made, the draft sedimentation study had not even been released. I suppose a challenge would be in order - but with a cost limit. As it stands right now, we are looking at another open ended contract.
As far as an… “…Industry standard MBR Water Recycling Plant with a 50 year life expectation”. That would be a great if we will have the electrical energy to run it for 50 years and could afford it. The future water issues will only be matched by future energy issues (supply and cost). The future “requirement” that you refer to is only for agencies using State Water Project supply. (Mr. Johnson, have you been reading the State Water Board draft notices again?). Yes, using recycled water is a good idea…for LA County…but not for Fillmore. Using recycled water is going to cost us $26 million just for capital costs! The $3 million grant application showed a 1% cost benefit at a cost of $11 million. At $26 million it will NEVER have a benefit for Fillmore. Especially now that it is determined that San Cayetano and the High School fields can’t be used for recycling. By the way, we are not “conserving” very much water. We are just percolating it at a different location - uphill. As L.A. Sanitation and United Water stated at last week’s Council meeting, river discharge is a BENEFICIAL use of the water.
Parks: I’m happy that we are getting a pool and a few tennis courts. Well done by all who participated in getting that pool through. That goes back to many people and many years of effort. I wouldn’t think any current Council member could take credit for that (except maybe Scott Lee). I hope our $15 per year pool tax will provide enough income to pay the expenses. The 22 acre park is currently only funded for the skatepark and most recently the concession stand. It may be years before the funding exists to complete the park. There’s talk of raising taxes via a Parks and Rec District to pay the maintenance for them because we can’t afford it.
As far as the Business Park, I can’t wait to see these jobs. I’m not convinced that Long’s Drugs and a Public Storage will provide the kind of jobs people are looking for though.
Now, on to Mayor Conaway’s comments. Mayor, I am speaking to you directly. The American Water trip…Yes, American Water booked and arranged for the trip. You were reimbursed by the Mayor’s Water Council that American Water is a full member of. While you did speak on the benefits of DBO contracts, you have yet to show how it has benefitted Fillmore. As I stated at the most recent debate, DBO is supposed to be done by an integrated company that “turnkeys” the entire project. That’s where the alleged savings come in. However, American Water is not that kind of company and you cannot document or prove any savings in this instance. The DBO was misused. You were referred to the report from the Inspector General of Massachusetts in the Lynne, MA case, yet there was no discussion of this issue which would have been appropriate and balanced. That’s all I have ever asked for is some balanced dialogue about all of the issues involved in this project. That is not an unreasonable request and in fact would be a requirement for any agency spending this much public funds. There is no acknowledgement of these issues and the response is to attack myself and others for asking about it. The impacts on this community are so severe and far reaching, yet you never asked for an economic feasibility analysis during this process. However, I will acknowledge that when the contract was signed, you were not the Mayor.
You are correct that there is no levee required for Santa Paula. Well before the FEMA maps our plant was NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN and didn’t require a levee. However, KDF properties did require one so we pitched in half to help them out.
Now you may perceive my comments as criticism and politicking but no, this is not meant to insult you it is only meant to stop the insults that you are hurling at me.
"Oh ya, your Candidate lambasted Fillmore for going with a DBO Contract. In Santa Paula your Candidate couldn't have been more supportive that they choose to go with a DBOF Contract. I don't think a fish out of water flops that fast.”
Yes, my mom lives in Santa Paula so I was happy for the citizens of Santa Paula. They got more for the money than we did. You cannot deny that fact. No matter how you try to spin and manipulate the numbers. They paid less, even when you take out the levee, percolation and financing. And, their DBO was handled more efficiently. The RFQ was less burdensome and costly, the RFP was less burdensome and costly, the contract special counsel was far less costly, and the project management was far less costly. They followed the intent and process of a true DBO company.
You are also taking credit for reducing sewer rates since the last increase was lower than projected. Have you looked at the proformas? The higher projections were based on the operating expenses for the NEW plant which isn’t even online yet. The savings occurred when those line items were removed because they weren’t even needed. There was no reduction or true savings and I am surprised that you would use it on your campaign flyers.
I could go on but I won’t.
“Roberto”: Umm…”Jamey, Gayle, Clay and Brian group” have used lies and fear in their campaigns for years.” What are you talking about? Clay Westling never participated in any citizen advocacy until less than a year ago. I’ve been involved for about two years. The others, I don’t know about since I wasn’t here before 2006. No credibility for you. “Please stop it.”
LOL: I want to point out that the American Water contract had already been signed before Mayor Conaway went on the trip. I don’t believe that there were any other approvals after that. And, it is also a little premature to call the election at this point. The results might not even be known for days or weeks after the election.
Bottom line, there are emotional insults flying from all directions. I’ve taken a lot of abuse, as have some other candidates. I guess it’s part of the game but I have to say that your support has had more practice with these tactics that don’t belong in Fillmore. And, I will say again as I have many times on my blog, to my supporters who engage in these discussions, stick to the facts of the record and the issues, no insults or personal attacks. Disagreement is normal and expected but adults are to be role models of decorum and diplomacy and that is the way I want to conduct myself – even though I can’t control others.
This is such a long read, I doubt that many will read every word. That's okay though. Now I'll be reviewing the new Draft Housing Element – don’t have time to discuss anymore.
Sorry, Misspellchkr...that's
Sorry, Misspellchkr...that's why I could not understand your verbiage and manner of thinking, plus it was my personal fault for not being able in failing to notice the sending poster. My sincere apology, once again, Misspellchkr.
Sorry if this was
Sorry if this was confusing...it was directed to Mayor Conaway...
"Bottom line, there are emotional insults flying from all directions. I’ve taken a lot of abuse, as have some other candidates. I guess it’s part of the game but I have to say that your support has had more practice with these tactics that don’t belong in Fillmore. And, I will say again as I have many times on my blog, to my supporters who engage in these discussions, stick to the facts of the record and the issues, no insults or personal attacks. Disagreement is normal and expected but adults are to be role models of decorum and diplomacy and that is the way I want to conduct myself – even though I can’t control others."
Gayle, the bottom line is
Gayle, the bottom line is your supporters continue to use attacks that go against your "Stick to the facts" statement. Have you taken a look at the full page ad in this week's Gazette? Are you prepared to denounce the misleading statements in this ad?
Gayle, and could you let us
Gayle, and could you let us know who is behind the ad? The bottom of the ad says "Paid for by "Fil-Pac ID#1302822" Thank You.
Yes Gayle, can you please
Yes Gayle, can you please let us know who is behind the slander? Who is "Fil-Pac ID#1302822" and why are you allowing them to deceive the public?
If you don't condemn it, you must think it’s ok.
If you and Jamey Brooks can't win on your own merits, you don't have my vote. I urge my fellow citizens to teach these candidates a lesson and don't vote for Gayle Washburn or Jamey Brooks on Election Day.
Okay, I'm looking at this ad
Okay, I'm looking at this ad and I'm not seeing any slander. It looks like it is you who is slandering whoever wrote the ad! Anyway, what I see is a post card and a water bill...A statement about the plant contract...two quotes...a picture and caption published by Food and Water Watch...a Fillmore Resolution...a question...a picture of a contribution...a statement and a question about the SRF...no slander. Looks like bonafide documents and we've seen most of them before.
What are you talking about? Where's your issue? What a little spin machine you are...haha.
I would condemn the "conflict of interest" question since if there are any future approvals for American Water, the individual could just recuse from any votes. So the question is a stretch but it is just a question not a statement.
I suggest you go to City Hall to retrieve any PAC contribution information.
Gayle, I think the issue
Gayle, I think the issue Roberto has is an overall attempt to create a sense that, 2 candidates in particular, are somehow responsible for our high sewer rates. They are not.
5 people sit on our city council and 5 people vote on all city issues. The sewer plant is a state mandated project that Santa Paula and other cities are being forced to deal with. You can argue the nuts and bolts; but one way or another, regardless of who was on the city council, our sewer rates were going to increase significantly.
The company you wanted to build our new sewer plant (a company called "PERC") was, in the judgement of most council members, too inexperienced and wanted to use unproven technology. Moreover, they now appear to be a very unethical company (see Santa Paula Times articles below). Don't get me wrong Gayle, I think you're a very nice person and want what's best for all of us; but I, and others, question your judgement and ability to make sound decisions for our city.
http://www.santapaulatimes.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/17109/Demonstratio...
http://santapaulatimes.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/17138/Labor_violations...
I second that Pete.
I second that Pete.