There's a restaurant at the corner of Hwy 23 and West Los Angeles Ave., Moorpark, called Grinders. I've driven by it a hundred times but not being a "grinder" sandwich fan, I never gave it a try. And I have to say, though well-kept, the exterior presents itself on the bland side, giving no indication to what awaits inside. But over the weekend my sis-in-law asked me if I had ever tried it. She said it had great food, pretty good sweet & sour cabbage soup (though not as good as her Grandma Sarah’s recipe), and the best rye bread she's ever had. That peaked my culinary curiosity. There are two people I listen to about food; my sis-in-law and my daughter-in-law. Both are accomplished "chefs". I hate to cook. Then I asked my son, who works in Moorpark, if he had ever eaten there. He got a horrible look on his face and said "Yes, for breakfast but it's just like a (insert lousy restaurant name)," and wished me luck if I decided to try it, which I did. First let me say he had not eaten there in over 3 years. It has since been purchased by a very nice gentleman, Francisco. The first shock comes as you walk in the front door. I was expecting a Denny's-like decor but it had a more upscale feel, with a really nice bakery counter waiting to suck dollars out of you purse/pocket and attach to your hips. There is a 22-page menu. Twenty-two pages. Go ready to read. The menu was reminiscent of Roxie's Deli in TO, which I told the waitress, Nicole. That's when she told my husband and me Francisco worked at Roxie's for 15 years, 10 as manager, which explained a lot. Francisco came over and we talked for a while. I told him he should change the name to Manny's Deli, "Grinders" does not do the place justice. I had the Skyhigh Pastrami (a Rueben with coleslaw instead of sauerkraut) and the rye bread was very good. But it was missing a pickle which I didn't think of until later so I guess I didn't miss it that much. The menu had wine, deli, Mexican, Italian, Steak, desserts, pretty much you-name-it. I love a good deli sandwich (and omelet) and will be returning to Grinder's (until he changes the name). Wanda